Thursday, May 13, 2010

CIO stands for CIO, BF stands for breast fed; what does PM stand for in regards to Parenting?

Does it stand for Pompous Moms?CIO stands for CIO, BF stands for breast fed; what does PM stand for in regards to Parenting?
Post Moronic.CIO stands for CIO, BF stands for breast fed; what does PM stand for in regards to Parenting?
I think it means Parent Mafia,





but in the words of Miranda PM it stands for Penis Muncher.
Mamacita it means Petrified Mongrels.
uhh, no.





PM= Parenting Mafia.
Pubescent Mentality
Pathetic morons?





Pimpin Mucus?





porous mimes?





I know





they are fully Pre-Menstrual!!!
Perennial massage?
Penis Muncher
PMS'ing Mamas?
Pubic mice


Pretty Mamas


Petty Meanies (as some would say)


ummmm or how about Parent Mafia???
Parenting Mafia

Can you name all the debates in the pregnancy & parenting section?

lol, yes i think.


Formula feeding vs breastfeeding ('breast is best'; ';formula's bad'/ lmao)/bottle feeding vs. breast feeding





generic formula vs. name brand formula/difference/no difference between two





cloth diapers vs. disposable





generic diapers/wipes vs. name brand diapers/wipes





Vaccinating vs. no vaccinating, or selective vaccinating








self-soothing/crying it out vs. dont let them cry if you can help it (I personally go by this one)





Co-sleeping vs. having them sleep in their own bassinet/crib





Rice cereal as 1st solid vs. not introduced at all, not necessary





rice cereal in a bottle vs. spoon only and never bottle (even if okayed or ordered by dr to put in bottle)





solids at 4 mons vs solids at 6 mons or later





gerber stages baby foods vs. baby-led weaning/feeding table food





pacifiers vs. no pacifiers





baby-wearing vs. strollers





working mom (to raise money to ensure child has necessities) vs. stay at home moms





daycare vs. being taken care of by relatives (for working moms)


part-time working vs full-time (for working moms)





daycare vs. babysitter/nanny





extended rear-facing vs. forward facing as soon as they meet the requirements (over 20 lbs and at least 12 months of age)





back to sleep or let baby sleep however comfortable (esp. if they can roll over themselves and choose to sleep on their stomachs)





giving baby water here and there vs. no water at all, and water is ';bad'; when in reality, it's neither bad or good for them





buying baby lots of toys that are mind-stimulating vs. letting them play with simple things like boxes and reading to them





have pets around baby vs. get rid of all pets





walker vs. no walkers





letting baby sleep/nap in swing or bouncer vs. not at allCan you name all the debates in the pregnancy %26amp; parenting section?
Braunshitta vs. Perineum for best babby name





Natalie vs. Jilibean vs. B%26amp;B for hottest babe





Merrick vs. Toilet Master for biggest doofusCan you name all the debates in the pregnancy %26amp; parenting section?
pffft....





lemme think...








breast vs bottle





pro / anti vaccs





cry it out





circumcision





baby ear piercing





disposable vs cloth





weaning(6mos, 4mos, self weaning...)





baby wearing vs stroller
Breast Feeding vs Formula Feeding


Pro-Choice vs Anti-Abortion


Cloth vs Disposable Diapers


CIO vs Non CIO


Solids at 4 mos vs Solids after 6 months


Circumcision vs UnCut





Ummm.. I'm out.
Formula


Vaccination


Cry It out


Television


Spanking


Abortion


Pre-marital sex


Baby-wearing


Starting solids


Mommas that work








The list goes on and on...
Spanking VS not spanking


Breast feeding VS formula feeding


organic food VS Processed food








Those are the only ones I can think of right now I have a headache LOL.....
The ones that bother me the most are





SAHM's vs WM's





Whether or not single parents are good parents.
Abortion


Breast-feeding/Formula


Spanking/Non-Spanking


CIO


Vaccinates
SAHM/Working moms


breast/bottle


vaccinations


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  • Is foster parenting considered a job?

    Because in Massachusetts, they don't want you to have a full time job, they say part time is okIs foster parenting considered a job?
    As far as I'm concerned, any kind of parenting is a job. In my opinion, being a parent, is the hardest and most demanding job anyone will ever have. Being a parent means you are responsible for another human life 24/7 and there's not one cent to be gotten in a monetary value. What other non-paying job can anyone get where there is such a responsibility, and yet, the rewards can be so great and so few? Paying jobs are great but at the end of your shift, you can walk away and leave things as they were..then pick up the next morning right where you left off.


    I love being a mom and a gramma. I wouldn't change the experiences I've been through for all the money in the world...the good and the bad.


    Maybe they only want a foster parent to work part-time because the children will need someone there when they come home from school...not a sitter. Raising children isn't just being able to afford them. It takes alot of physical and emotional effort. And there's never, ever going to be a perfect parent.Is foster parenting considered a job?
    It is a job raising a family no matte how that family was brought together. Here in Florida we can work in fact they kinda encourage you to work or have other income coming in because the board rates aren't always enough to cover all expenses. Now we have medical foster care and that is considered a job because you are billing medicaid for your services there for at least one parent is required to stay home. Also the salvation army has homes that they run with 1-2 parents and a certain number of kids. One parent has to stay home and they are paid workers for the salvation army but they provide the house, food, money for activities, etc.
    I would guess they have that rule because some children in the foster system have mental/physical issues and need the extra attention. A foster child also needs the extra love and security of having 1 parent be their primary caregiver, instead of the care being from the parents and a daycare (who sometimes have high staff turn-over rates). Its all about the child's well being. A foster child just needs more, more time to adjust to a new family, rules, routine, and a new life.
    Most foster care parents are compensated by the state. They have contracts. They must agree to be available to the child so many hours a week or month, so that is the part time work limitation. They are taking in the kids who usually come from problem enviroments. They need to be paying attention. There is a maintaince fee for clothing and shoes and school supplies also.


    The child has state medical aid. Gas and transportation money varies. Most foster parents are not in it for the money though, one would hope. There have been some horrendous abuses of the Foster Care programs in some states as far as keeping track of where kids are.
    no its not a job but let me tell ya something!! its a pain in the ****!! im 16 and i was in foster care. thank god i went to my bffe's house so that worked out but you better own your own company or something if you wanna foster kids because if not you will more than likely get fired from missing so much. you go to court just about every week and omg its a pain!!
    no, becasue you don't get paid to foster. you get compensated a very small amount... but it still costs you money. they probably want the kids to go to a family that one or both parents are not always at work.
    no it is not!!!!!!
    hell yeah its a job...my mother was one for almost 25 years

    Why do people think Kevin is any better at parenting than Britney?

    Those kids should be turned over to the grandparents. At least Britney's sister came out normal.Why do people think Kevin is any better at parenting than Britney?
    Kevin saw how britney was behaving and knew if he wanted his kids to be taken care of right he was going to have to be the one to do it. therefor he stepped up and started bahaving right.Why do people think Kevin is any better at parenting than Britney?
    Kevin was already a father before Britney came along.


    Shar Jackson had his kid way before he met Brit.


    Look, he may be a lousy bad rapper. But He dont go around acting a fool when his kids are there. He is more responsible and look out out!!! Look out K-Fed....I smell some good ';Child Support'; coming your way from Britney..





    Here's my rap on the situation.....=)





    Britney Spitney...


    Sitting in a tree....


    P-A-R-T-Y-I-N-G....


    Didnt give a crap about the kiddies





    LOL Britney, I told you so


    Now your kids gots to go!


    Times up, you gotta go


    Pull up them panties for sho!
    well obviously he followed the judges orders. So he cares enough about the kids to do so. Her, not so much. And as for her parents raising them...not a good idea look at how Britney turned out...they raise them one will be okay and the other not so much. As for Britney's sister she's okay for now that we know of. Give her time.
    Britney's Mom prefers him, and so does her body guard and the judge!
    Kevin is a hit


    That's why they are divorced!!!!!!!!
    Kevin isn't out partying and doing drugs.





    Kevin isn't out driving with the kids and a suspended drivers license.





    Kevin wasn't raised by Britney's mother, who is the blame for a lot of her childish antics.





    And lastly... Kevin... is not Briney.





    *update*





    And you put that kevin was a drug user. He might have been in the past, but one of the sayings of the court was that BOTH parents had to get drug tested... and britney didn't show!
    Shar Jackson, K-fed's X, says hes a great Dad to her kids...


    So at least the guy knows how to be a father %26amp; how to care for children..





    He is a mature enough adult to see that Britney has become dangerous to the kids so he stepped up %26amp; is behaving himself. No one said the guys a saint .. but at least he knows when to keep himself straight...
    Hes not as publicized and they arent out to ruin his life. i think if they backed off her she might get it straight but we know when that will happen. paparazzi's are too involved with other people life's to worry about theyre own!
    I have to agree with Kasey %26amp; Armywife. Well, he does party somewhat but that was when Britney had the kids full time. Kevin is not seen partying that much anymore. The judge and the court thought he was a better parent at the moment and they know more than we do.





    Britney seemed like the better parent then but something went horribly wrong after the split and divorce that made Kevin a better parent than Britney.
    He is clearly better at parenting. In fact, he was about to be a parent when he and Britney started dating.

    How does interracial marriage affect gender roles and parenting responsibilities?

    especially hindu and catholicismHow does interracial marriage affect gender roles and parenting responsibilities?
    Interracial marriage does not affect gender roles. I am white and my wife is black. We act just like any other married couples act. My daughter is doing really good. She is even going to be moved up a grade because of her intellect. Gender roles have no affect on our interracial marriage.How does interracial marriage affect gender roles and parenting responsibilities?
    I am Black and my husband is white and I take more the dominant role in our marriage.He is very non-confrontational.He can know something is wrong bill,service,food order and will say nothing.Whereas me it gotta be what it's suppose to be or we may have an issue.I never overstep my role as wife I respect his manhood greatly but if intervention is needed I will speak up on his behalf.As far as parenting I am the decision maker only due to the fact I am home with our daughter daily and he works and is away 11-13 hours a day.So he allows me to do my thing how I see fit and he just backs my decisions with activities,discipline,bed-time whatever.I don't believe it's a race issue per-say I think it's more personality based and time based who predominately makes more decisions
    Race %26amp; Gender are two different things. Race %26amp; parenting have nothing to do with each other. As far as I'm concerned race doesn't affect anything.
    It doesnt! You still have a mother and a father~those are called parents. Since when does race have anything to do with being a parent?
    You have an essay due, don't you?
    Good question...when you find out let me know.
    it shouldnt at all.

    Is parenting really that bad? or is that just negative mothers?

    ...i want to be the best mother i can be.. i know i was a hard child after the age of 12 when i thought my $%#@ didnt stink.


    but is parenting really as bad as some mothers say?


    or are their children the way they are cuz of the way they were raised?Is parenting really that bad? or is that just negative mothers?
    PArenting is the hardest job in the world. You don't get paid for it, no appreciation, and a lack of respect from the teen years till about mid 20's.....





    Is it worth it? Yes. would i do it again? Of course. WAtching my children grow has bee nthe most enriching experience of my life.





    Your children are a reflection of you. How you raise them is how you want them raised.Is parenting really that bad? or is that just negative mothers?
    You have no choice in how they are raised now...The government will let you know how your going to do it.. Yo can do nothing to the child but talk..Talk don't work...But if your kid gets out there and destroys something --YOU WILL PAY because its still your kid although the government says how you going to raise it...Yes parenting in this day SUCKS...Think about it before you do it..
    Parenting is hard. It's extremely rewarding at the end of the day though and that's what makes it work it! If mothers complain about their children it's their own fault. From the day a child is born it's up to you to teach him/her right from wrong and how to behave. A lot of people skip that part then wonder what the heck went wrong. Personally, I feel the first five years are what makes a child. It's really hard to 'teach a old dog new tricks.' That's probably why they complain that so much.





    What I'm trying to say is that it takes dedication but it's not something to complain about. The mothers you are talking about are the ones who probably should have thought a lot harder before deciding to have children.
    There's an old saying, 'If the child misbehaves,銆€spank the parents.鈥?Children who are truly wanted and loved and given the proper education and guidance grow up to be good, loving, contributing members of society instead of a burden. Unfortunately, in many cases the kid is an afterthought, or rather a product of a brief roll in the hay. Consequently the child is resented by the parties concerned if not overtly, at the subconscious level,and the child sensing the negativity from the parents begins to act up. Of course to make matters worse, immature people continue to produce babies often by different men who then become not only physical but financial burdens.
    OK..we all want the best for our children and to be the best mothers (well most of us anyways)





    I think you are confusing the negative feelings mothers sometimes have about parenting as being bad..its not the same...I can tell you this...you only understand after you are a parent..just how exhausting, constant, sacrificial, non-stop and all on about 6 -7 hours of sleep and 1 hour of me time..I tough mothers were being 'babies'; or ';exaggerating'; ..typically they are NOT! Its about 5x harder than your imagining right now!





    that being said I would do it all over again to have my lil man!
    Parenting is a 24 hour a day job, it is tiring, challenging, demanding and very hard work at times. But is is also fun, exciting, happy and rewarding when its good. It depends on how much support you have from others, how well your child sleeps,eats,settles etc. There is no garantees with kids and you never know how each day will turn out. My eldest is three and he is a handfull at times, but he is also very funny, caring,smart and polite. I can only hope it gets easier as they get older!
    Being a mother is the toughest and most rewarding job I have ever had. It definately is challenging, and requires a lot of energy. My mom was a single parent of 3 kids after she was forced to leave my dad because of violence. I never heard her complain once, and I think that is the best example I have ever seen. I think that mom's that complain make their children feel guilty or bad about themselves. Phases are normal stages of development, even the one you mentioned. Its our jobs as mothers to set an ideal example for how we would want our children to parent and act. So, I disagree with the negativity and complaining that some moms feel they need to do; and given the same token can relate to the challenges.

    I have a Booklet to do for my parenting class... PLEASE HELP?

    I need an introduction regarding the importance of having a healthy baby. Can you please give me a long paragraph introduction regarding the importance of having a healthy baby. make it kinda long and sweet thanxI have a Booklet to do for my parenting class... PLEASE HELP?
    do you really deserve to be having a child if you can't be bothered to do your own work for your parenting class?

    Is there a website for methods of parenting?

    how do i teach my 11 months boy to stops crying when i go out of the room or when im doing any work in the same room? He is a smily boy in the nursery when im not around, but when he sees me he makes sure i only give him all my attention


    ?





    ThanksIs there a website for methods of parenting?
    http://positivediscipline.com/
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  • Looking 2 purchase a fake crying baby, like those used in Schools 2 teach teens parenting. where can i get 1?

    Please e-mail your answer. ThanksLooking 2 purchase a fake crying baby, like those used in Schools 2 teach teens parenting. where can i get 1?
    where are you?Looking 2 purchase a fake crying baby, like those used in Schools 2 teach teens parenting. where can i get 1?
    yes i am where abouts will i get 1 plz thanks maz

    Does there seem to be a great deal of hostility on Yahoo!Answers in the parenting section these days?

    If you want to see pure hostility, go to the Politics section. People there are either ask incredibly stupid questions or say things that are so inflammatory that I am sure that they are reporting each other for abuse.





    Parenting is one of those subjects that invites conflict. If you are doing what you feel is right for your child, there is bound to be someone who thinks you got it all wrong. I don't care if its whether or not to circumsize, breast or bottle or whatever, everyone has an opinion and they think that theirs is the best.





    Sometimes I think there is too much information out there and it is too easily accessible. When I had my oldest (she is 18), there was no internet as we know it, parents had to muddle through on their own or just read piles of books and hope to make the best decisions for their children and if we had issues, hopefully, there were other mothers we could talk to.





    There are times when I miss those days. Does there seem to be a great deal of hostility on Yahoo!Answers in the parenting section these days?
    Yes. But is it really that surprising? People's kids are the most important thing in the world to them, people tend to be very invested in the way they parent, not everyone parents the same way, and so an opinion forum like this one is bound to leave some people feeling defensive. Some people, when feeling defensive, lash out and get hostile.





    Not that I'm supporting hostility and rudeness. To the contrary, I tend to get on people's nerves because I sometimes come off as the civility police on here. But I do understand what triggers it.








    edit -- Marilyn -- I agree about the politics section. Such a bummer, because I'd love some spirited debate about politics, but that section is so full of attacks and invective that looking for some intelligent spirited debate is a needle in a haystack situation.Does there seem to be a great deal of hostility on Yahoo!Answers in the parenting section these days?
    People are very passionate about their children and tend to take it personally if people parent differently than they do. Everyone wants to be a good parent, so if they think they are being told they are not (even when that is not the case), they immediately become defensive.





    And to think I was going to ask about piercing my daughter's ears.





    People come on here because they want advice, but some people are very small I'm afraid and suffer from ';everybody sucks as a mom but me'; itis.





    Keep asking questions. I don't really care about hostility from anonymous strangers over the internet.





    P.S. You want hostility, visit the adoption section some time. They give you the thumbs down for telling how many kids you have.
    Yes indeed!! Just have to ask if you should bottle feed your baby or if you should pierce your infant daughter's ears... and you'll get a lot of hate if you dont get deleted!


    I dont know why.. usually people ask for advice of more experienced moms.. not hate... or judgement....


    oh well.........
    Yes





    To Arianna


    i asked the question about '; to pierce your infant daughter's ears...';

    Parenting today and in the early 1900s.?

    I am doing some research into parenting styles today and those at the start of the twentieth century. Does any one know any good resources (books, web-sites, videos etc) on this topic, especially concerning the early 1900s?





    Any help would be greatly appreciated. :)Parenting today and in the early 1900s.?
    Here's a list of books





    http://worldcat.org/search?q=su%3AChild+鈥?/a>








    Subject =


    Child rearing -United States -History - 20th centuryParenting today and in the early 1900s.?
    Here you are





    http://wfnetwork.bc.edu/berkeley/papers/鈥?/a>


    http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8%26amp;keywords鈥?/a>


    http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0022-24鈥?/a>


    http://www.oah.org/pubs/magazine/family/鈥?/a>


    http://www.birthpsychology.com/lifebefor鈥?/a>


    http://muse.jhu.edu/journals/parergon/v0鈥?/a>

    What Can I Do? I Have Shared Parenting And Found Out He Has A Domestic Violence..

    Ok.. This is going to be a little long.. But here goes.. October 2006.. My daughters dad took me to court for custody.. I was doing very bad at the time.. BUT.. I was taking good care of my daughter.. I wasnt working and living with an ex boyfriend.. They belittled me in court.. They didnt care that her dad wasnt around for the first 3yrs of her life!.. So I lost custody.. And now we do a shared parenting plan.. Her dad has called my townhouse complex several times making stuff up to try to get me evicted so I dont see my daughter.. I feel like I have to watch what I do all the time because he's after me.. I looked his record up online and seen a domestic violence.. I guess him and his wife made up because it said that it was dismissed.. But i was NEVER made aware of this.. And my daughter was there that night.. Also on his record is a protection order.. It says nothing about that being dropped.. So exactly what can I do about this?? If there is a protection order that would mean he has to stay away from her and the home of which my daughter lives.. So Im wondering what I can do about this.. I live in Ohio.. If that matters.. Thanks so much!What Can I Do? I Have Shared Parenting And Found Out He Has A Domestic Violence..
    To change the custody agreement, generally you have to show a change of circumstances that affect the child. This domestic violence beef may have nothing to do with his wife and it may have no effect at all on your daughter's safety and well-being.





    When you say that you were doing very bad at the time, that implies that you have some baggage too. If you have a history of drug or alcohol dependence, for example, a judge might still find that shared parenting is the way to go.





    It's probably a lot better for your child if both you and the ex can stop looking for ways to cut the other out of her life. Shared parenting is the standard these days because a child needs two parents.





    Try to find a way to get along. But if you have real evidence that your child is in danger, get a lawyer.

    WHY DO WE GOOD PARENTS HAVE TO GET RETAUGHT PARENTING CLASSES?

    WE'VE TAKEN CLASSES BEFORE WHEN KIDS WERE BORN AND NOW CPS THINKS WE NEED THIS AGIAN AT 50$ TWO CLASSES AND THERPY SO DUMB OF RULES...WHY DO WE GOOD PARENTS HAVE TO GET RETAUGHT PARENTING CLASSES?
    for all the people that say she is doing something wrong. well a lot of the times cps gets called for no reason by a mad family member. then cps makes you jump through hoops to keep your kids. so dont say she is a bad mom. for you i am sorry that cps does these things. what state are you in. most states make cps pay if the parents have to do any thing that cost money. i had to take these classes and i agree with you they do not teach you any thing new so i dont even know why they make people take these classesWHY DO WE GOOD PARENTS HAVE TO GET RETAUGHT PARENTING CLASSES?
    I don't understand the question. ... ...... ...... sorry. um, i took parenting classes when i was in a shelter for abused women, and read a lot of books, but the best advice I ever got was from Barbara and Dennis Rainey... www.familylife.com. I raised four boys by myself.





    I'm not about to criticize you in any way, but... if you were doing your job as a parent why in the world would cps make you take parenting classes?





    And what does ';so dumb of rules'; mean? Sorry, I guess you should rephrase your question but before that, maybe think about your situation. cps doesn't make you take parenting classes for nothing.
    Obviously I don't know the specifics but if it is CPS forcing you to take these classes then they have a reason to believe that you are not the good parents you claim to be. I personally find it a comfort to know that when an offender has a child, they are having proper guidance istead of being dismissed as a past offender. It may be annoying and you may be a good parent now, but I must wonder how many kids have fallen through the cracks in the past.
    something must of happened to involve CPS. All I can tell you is to swallow your pride and don't argue about it. The main objective is to keep your children with you. Once you loose custody there will be hell for everyone, especially the kids. So please just be patient. Also keep this in mind...we as good parents continue to learn all through our lives.
    Parents involuntarily involved with CPS aren't the best parents generally. Sorry to break it to you.





    Just pay the money, take the classes. It's what's best for your kids in the long run. You say you're a good parent, good parents want the best for their kids.
    If CPS say's that you need to have this done then just do it. Get it over with and show them that you are good parents - once you do what they want they will leave you alone. If you don't do this they can probably have your kids taken away.
    Why are you in CPS in the first place? When it comes to children, the laws are very strict. For you to question it as if to complain of its inconvenience to you when there are obvious reasons as to why you are in CPS in the first place, it's stupid you ask maybe.
    Good parents don't have CPS involved in their lives. You must have done something wrong to have CPS monitoring you. Just pay the $50 and take the classes.
    Maybe you will learn some new techniques about how to deal with your kids about the issues effecting them in this day and age ( drugs, sex, peer pressure etc.)
    if CPS is getting involved there must be more to the story. I have not been told I need to take classes, this is my second child.
    You spelled again wrong!! You're a BAD parent!! Whats therpy? so dumb of rules? Did you skip grade school or are you just bad at typing?
    If your kids are under five they will most likely adopt them out if you do not comply.
    If CPS told me to take classes then I would take the classes. No matter the cost.
    I guess youre not as good of a parent as you proclaim to be...I teach these classes.
    Why is CPS involved? Backstory?
    Take some typing classes while you're at it. Specifically, ones that teach you how to turn Caps Lock off.
    What is CPS? And kids grow up, and there are new things to learn.
    If you were a good parent then cps wouldn't be an issue.
    Oh, great. Somebody beeching about being better parents.
    coz u think they are dumb. thats why you have to do it.
    Why are you with CPS? which in my state is Child Protective Services which means that someone felt you could not take care of your children properly. Help us understand this, please.
    You must be doing something wrong if CPS is involved with your life.
    i don't know why, but if that's what they want you better or say bye to the kids
    sounds dumb to me i guess
    Well what makes you think your a good parent?

    Who's for birth restrictions and parenting competency tests?

    Seriously, why are families with more than two children even allowed anymore? Why do we keep allowing the stupid to breed...just because you can make a child, doesn't mean you should. Making babies is, unfortunately, the easy part...Who's for birth restrictions and parenting competency tests?
    If the parents are decent people who discipline their kids and support their kids with no help from the gov't, they should have as many or few kids as they want. If the gov't has to start helping, time to stop having kids.Who's for birth restrictions and parenting competency tests?
    I am, because this world is too crowded as it is, and environmental dangers are imminent. I think it would lessen the severity if we did something to lower the birth rate, esp. in countries like the U.S. that drain resources and pollute like crazy. I doubt it would happen here, though. People get all high and mighty when it comes to their reproductive rights. The children that we love to put on this Earth will be facing all kinds of turmoil from the Earth as it rebels, likely in the near future. That is why I don't want children - I don't want future generations of my family suffering.
    man I have been thinking exactly that for a while - they do a pretty good job of it in china - i doubt it would work in the states -


    but I give myself comfort in the thought of natural selection - survival of the fittest - evolution -
    Oh sure, let's let the government control us even more. We are supposed to be the land of the free. Remember....freedom, our amendments.





    How about we educate people? This world is full of ignorance!
    I will agree with you on the parent competency tests... you really need to be able to handle the responsibility of a baby before you have one.





    But I happen to like large families... at least the ones where the parents know what they are doing, and are able to devote proper time and attention to each of their kids.
    The size isn't the problem, even couples who are smart can raise good families of any size. The problem is when stupid people procreate.





    Ie. I might be 14 with no boyfriend, job or education but I want a bay cause I think it'll look cute.
    Well my husband and I have been trying to concieve for going on 9 months July 19th so no it's not easy to make a baby. Secondly my husband and I aren't stupid and neither are my extended family. Third the government CAN NOT order or place a restriction on how many children a couple can have. If parents can afford to have more then 2 children then they should be allowed to have as many children as they can afford. My brother in law has 5 kids, another has 9 and another has 13. My husband's country is cheap and the education and hospitals and medicine is free because the Government of Saudi Arabia pays for everything. In our religion which is Islam it is recommended to have large families not only to spread Islam but because family is an important part of Islam and so the eldest child can take care of his mother and younger siblings if the father dies and because families are really close to each other in Islam with grandparents living with their grown children and grandchildren.
    I totally agree! We were just discussing that. I think you should have to pass a basic common sense test. Maybe that would cut down on parents murdering their children, or the need for foster care and SRS.
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  • The future for teen moms can be compromised due to the demands of parenting.?

    The future for teen moms can be compromised due to the demands of parenting. What are two of those consequences?


    Website:


    http://www.smith.edu/ourhealthourfutures鈥?/a>


    Thanks, (hw question)The future for teen moms can be compromised due to the demands of parenting.?
    Be careful. This is a stereotype and is based on the assumption that parenthood is what compromises their future. Many teens who become parents have already had their futures compromised - by poverty, inadequate educational services, emotional and physical abuse, peer pressure, a poor environment, and the media. Not only is there no incentive to prevent pregnancy, there may actually be a financial advantage compared to where they were before. These teens would have struggled whether they had babies or not.





    Teens from more privileged backgrounds also have babies - and their futures are really not much different from their peers'. Most of them go to college, support their children, and eventually marry. They may have done things in their lives in different order from their peers, but in 10 years, they all end up in about the same place.





    So be careful in assuming that parenthood is the problem. It's not. In many cases, the real problem is the circumstances that lead to early parenthood.The future for teen moms can be compromised due to the demands of parenting.?
    Ummm homework if for you not for us!!!! DO your own homework.

    What is the value of parenting programmes in enabling learning and growth?

    The value is priceless. Every parent should be educated on child development. It makes life so much easier and fun for you and your children. The more educated you are in child development, the more enriched your childs' life becomes.What is the value of parenting programmes in enabling learning and growth?
    not worth it they make you feel stupid and that everything your doing is wrong.What is the value of parenting programmes in enabling learning and growth?
    Hmm, this is in 'parenting', but sounds like a college assignment to me. Do your own homework!

    Since the main topic of discussion seems to be parenting, namely vice presidential parenting?

    Shall we also ask about Joey Biden's ability to parent, after all Hunter is currently being sued and is under investigation for fraud, just exactly where did he learn his ';family values';?





    Or does this sort of thing just apply to working women?





    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con鈥?/a>Since the main topic of discussion seems to be parenting, namely vice presidential parenting?
    Thank you for bringing light to the fact that people are trying to throw rocks at a women that has set the bar for responcible leadership.Since the main topic of discussion seems to be parenting, namely vice presidential parenting?
    Every individual has ';family values';, and it is always the ';other person'; who doesn't. The republicans made ';family values' a centerpiece of their attack on Clinton, but conveniently overlook the President Bush has done cocaine, Bush's daughter were caught underage drinking, Palin is smoking marijuana, Palin's husband is driving drunk, Palin's 16-17 year old daughter is having unprotected sex and is pregnant.


    Since when is cocaine use, underage drinking, marijuana use, teenage sex and pregnancy and drunk driving part of ';family values';?????? The simply answer is that they are NOT! The simply fact of the matter is, ';family values'; matters only when there is evidence the the ';OTHER'; guy doesn't have any. If there is any question the ';you'; are lacking in family values, then you do as the republicans have done, and insist that these are ';personal problems'; that should not be delved into and are inappropriate for us to investigate.


    Don't get me wrong; the democrats have their own skeletons in the closet. The problems with this wrong mess is that we use value laden terms as a litmus test for who we agree and/or disagree with, and we don't know what these terms really mean, nor would we wish people to judge ';us'; on the basis of what these terms mean. We say that someone has or doesn't have ';family values';, and we use that characterization to say they are good, bad, right, wrong, conservative and/or liberal...but no one ever defines what ';family values'; are, and we all just assume that we know and agree.... The truth is, and it's always the same, the only thing that can truly be said about ';family values'; is this : I , MYSELF, ALWAYS HAVE FAMILY VALUES, everyone else is questionable!






    / Biden's brother as well.





    Also, Obama's mama was a preggy at 17 in Nov. '60. She wed the father in Feb '61, and Barak was born in Aug '61
    I'd rather my GROWN son be sued than for my TEENAGE DAUGHTER to be PREGNANT.





    The Palin family obviously does not place too much emphasis on morals.
    Good point but the stinking lib media will not report on this accused felon. Nor do they care to comment much on Biden himself and his proven plagarism.
    I will say this again:


    It is a family issue and NONE of america's business.


    cheel out brahizzle
    Working women who are conservative that is.
    Your right, it just applies to working women.

    The future for teen moms can be compromised due to the demands of parenting.?

    The future for teen moms can be compromised due to the demands of parenting. What are two of those consequences?


    Website:


    http://www.smith.edu/ourhealthourfutures鈥?/a>


    Thanks, (hw question)The future for teen moms can be compromised due to the demands of parenting.?
    Be careful. This is a stereotype and is based on the assumption that parenthood is what compromises their future. Many teens who become parents have already had their futures compromised - by poverty, inadequate educational services, emotional and physical abuse, peer pressure, a poor environment, and the media. Not only is there no incentive to prevent pregnancy, there may actually be a financial advantage compared to where they were before. These teens would have struggled whether they had babies or not.





    Teens from more privileged backgrounds also have babies - and their futures are really not much different from their peers'. Most of them go to college, support their children, and eventually marry. They may have done things in their lives in different order from their peers, but in 10 years, they all end up in about the same place.





    So be careful in assuming that parenthood is the problem. It's not. In many cases, the real problem is the circumstances that lead to early parenthood.The future for teen moms can be compromised due to the demands of parenting.?
    Ummm homework if for you not for us!!!! DO your own homework.

    What is the value of parenting programmes in enabling learning and growth?

    The value is priceless. Every parent should be educated on child development. It makes life so much easier and fun for you and your children. The more educated you are in child development, the more enriched your childs' life becomes.What is the value of parenting programmes in enabling learning and growth?
    not worth it they make you feel stupid and that everything your doing is wrong.What is the value of parenting programmes in enabling learning and growth?
    Hmm, this is in 'parenting', but sounds like a college assignment to me. Do your own homework!

    Since the main topic of discussion seems to be parenting, namely vice presidential parenting?

    Shall we also ask about Joey Biden's ability to parent, after all Hunter is currently being sued and is under investigation for fraud, just exactly where did he learn his ';family values';?





    Or does this sort of thing just apply to working women?





    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con鈥?/a>Since the main topic of discussion seems to be parenting, namely vice presidential parenting?
    Thank you for bringing light to the fact that people are trying to throw rocks at a women that has set the bar for responcible leadership.Since the main topic of discussion seems to be parenting, namely vice presidential parenting?
    Every individual has ';family values';, and it is always the ';other person'; who doesn't. The republicans made ';family values' a centerpiece of their attack on Clinton, but conveniently overlook the President Bush has done cocaine, Bush's daughter were caught underage drinking, Palin is smoking marijuana, Palin's husband is driving drunk, Palin's 16-17 year old daughter is having unprotected sex and is pregnant.


    Since when is cocaine use, underage drinking, marijuana use, teenage sex and pregnancy and drunk driving part of ';family values';?????? The simply answer is that they are NOT! The simply fact of the matter is, ';family values'; matters only when there is evidence the the ';OTHER'; guy doesn't have any. If there is any question the ';you'; are lacking in family values, then you do as the republicans have done, and insist that these are ';personal problems'; that should not be delved into and are inappropriate for us to investigate.


    Don't get me wrong; the democrats have their own skeletons in the closet. The problems with this wrong mess is that we use value laden terms as a litmus test for who we agree and/or disagree with, and we don't know what these terms really mean, nor would we wish people to judge ';us'; on the basis of what these terms mean. We say that someone has or doesn't have ';family values';, and we use that characterization to say they are good, bad, right, wrong, conservative and/or liberal...but no one ever defines what ';family values'; are, and we all just assume that we know and agree.... The truth is, and it's always the same, the only thing that can truly be said about ';family values'; is this : I , MYSELF, ALWAYS HAVE FAMILY VALUES, everyone else is questionable!






    / Biden's brother as well.





    Also, Obama's mama was a preggy at 17 in Nov. '60. She wed the father in Feb '61, and Barak was born in Aug '61
    I'd rather my GROWN son be sued than for my TEENAGE DAUGHTER to be PREGNANT.





    The Palin family obviously does not place too much emphasis on morals.
    Good point but the stinking lib media will not report on this accused felon. Nor do they care to comment much on Biden himself and his proven plagarism.
    I will say this again:


    It is a family issue and NONE of america's business.


    cheel out brahizzle
    Working women who are conservative that is.
    Your right, it just applies to working women.
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  • Help with a name to call a facebook group for all us Pregnancy & Parenting ladies on Y!A?

    maybe... Pregnancy %26amp; Parenting Ladies Of Yahoo! Answers??


    any ideas/suggestions?Help with a name to call a facebook group for all us Pregnancy %26amp; Parenting ladies on Y!A?
    YAPP (for Y!A Pregnancy %26amp; Parenting)





    It's got an initial from each word of the group, and a sense of humor, which all of us parents have.Help with a name to call a facebook group for all us Pregnancy %26amp; Parenting ladies on Y!A?
    I personally don't see the point in it, surely its enough the women coming on here without re-directing them to facebook, no-one knows you on YA but ur friends would be able to see what you are up to on facebook!!! Waste of time if you ask me cos I certainly wouldn't be interested!
    I think your idea is good, its simple straight forward etc.


    You have to let us know what you call it when you make it, I'll join!
    Let me know when and I'll join. I think the YAPP is a good one Xx
    I like ';sizesmiths'; answer...YAPP





    And I think it's a good idea, I'd join if you made one. Let us know if/when you do. x
    how about ';why are'nt we intelligent enough to just buy a pregnancy ladies..'; :)

    Need a good sight for laws/statutes in MN regarding parents that break Court Ordered Parenting time?

    We have a good amount of documentation of incidents,phone messages that we are getting ready for court next week . we just want to make sure we are useing all of our sources and representing are case good since we have filed the motion without a lawyer saving $250 we dont have!


    We do know she can be charded and also could pay a penalty to the court and our court fees. Any other info would be appreciated.





    PLEASE ONLY ANSWER WITH FACTS OR EXPERIENCE!! THANKSNeed a good sight for laws/statutes in MN regarding parents that break Court Ordered Parenting time?
    Hello,





    Take a look at my website and I have some caselaw there:





    http://www.UtahParentsUnderSiege.com/





    Also, I will take a look for things specific to MN.





    Good Luck,





    Eric








    Update:





    I found this hope it helps...





    Enforcement of Parenting Time Order by Police





    Enforcing a parenting time order may often be difficult. Law enforcement often will treat denials of parenting time as civil matters. However, a Court order can include language that specifically requires law enforcement to enforce a parenting time order. This is specified under Minnesota Statutes 518.175. It states as follows:





    ';The court may provide that a law enforcement officer or other appropriate person will accompany a party seeking to enforce or comply with parenting time.';





    Remedies for Denial of Parenting Time.


    Minnesota statutes also spell out a myriad of remedies when parenting time is denied or subject to unreasonable interference.





    Specifically, the court may provide for one or more of the following remedies for denial of or interference with court-ordered parenting time:





    1. If the court finds that a person has been deprived of court-ordered parenting time, the court shall order the parent who has interfered to allow compensatory parenting time to the other parent or the court shall make specific findings as to why a request for compensatory parenting time is denied. If compensatory parenting time is awarded, additional parenting time must be:


    o at least of the same type and duration as the deprived parenting time and, at the discretion


    of the court, may be in excess of or of a different type than the deprived parenting time;


    o taken within one year after the deprived parenting time; and


    o at a time acceptable to the parent deprived of parenting time.


    o





    2. If the court finds that a party has wrongfully failed to comply with a parenting time order or a binding agreement or decision under section 518.1751, the court may:


    o impose a civil penalty of up to $500 on the party;


    o require the party to post a bond with the court for a specified period of time to secure the party's compliance;


    o award reasonable attorney's fees and costs;


    o require the party who violated the parenting time order or binding agreement or decision


    of the parenting time expeditor to reimburse the other party for costs incurred as a result of the


    violation of the order or agreement or decision; or


    o award any other remedy that the court finds to be in the best interests of the children


    involved.


    A civil penalty imposed under this paragraph must be deposited in the county general fund and must be used to fund the costs of a parenting time expeditor program in a county with this


    program. In other counties, the civil penalty must be deposited in the state general fund.


    3. If the court finds that a party has been denied parenting time and has incurred expenses in


    connection with the denied parenting time, the court may require the party who denied parenting


    time to post a bond in favor of the other party in the amount of prepaid expenses associated with


    upcoming planned parenting time.


    4. Proof of an unwarranted denial of or interference with duly established parenting time


    may constitute contempt of court and may be sufficient cause for reversal of custody.





    Right of First Refusal


    Under Minnesota Statutes the court may also allow additional


    parenting time to a parent to provide child care while the other parent is working if this arrangement is reasonable and in the best interests of the child. In addition, the court shall consider:





    1. the ability of the parents to cooperate;


    2. methods for resolving disputes regarding the care of the child, and the parents' willingness to use those methods; and


    3. whether domestic abuse, as defined in section 518B.01, has occurred between the parties.Need a good sight for laws/statutes in MN regarding parents that break Court Ordered Parenting time?
    police reports always work well in court because they are not involved. statements from officials like school teachers, child protective services, doctors or nurses are always good. if oyu can bring one of these people with you to court, that would help even better.





    on my court order....it says jail time could be ordered in addition to court fees.

    Do you believe in parenting without punishment? Why/why not?

    I'm just curious to see how parents in general feel about natural consequences, peaceful parenting, etc. Do you think it makes for successful children and adults, is it suitable for all children, at all ages?


    Any input and thoughts welcome, thanks!Do you believe in parenting without punishment? Why/why not?
    I have never heard of parenting without punishment. With my children (one teenager, three successful adults in their 30's) I insisted on manners, respect, accountability and I did not EVER hit. I also learned quickly that yelling and screaming is far less effective than a calm voice. They all had chores. If they were not done, they did not move from the house or talk on the phone. If they came in past curfew, they were grounded 1 day for every 15 minutes they were late. I had to be very strict because I was a single parent for much of their young years. They are all responsible, college educated adults and I am very proud of all of them. I love them all dearly and they have brought great joy to my life. Now, I just wish they would bring on the grandchildren!Do you believe in parenting without punishment? Why/why not?
    We don't punish our kids. We supervise them, teach them %26amp; guide them.





    It works best if you start with a solid trust/attachment bond with them, that you build starting from infancy (or rebuild if you don't meet them until they're older). From there, the natural desire to please you, the trust in you as a guide, the mutual respect that you have in place will make it all pretty easy.





    And, that's not to say that we let them do whatever they want or behave however they want. There are times when we have to say 'Do what I say now %26amp; I'll explain it later' (and they trust us to do that). Or, when we have to actually *point out* and enforce the natural consequences (making sure that they make amends with others, for example, making sure that they notice the harm that they've done).





    Although we tried '1-2-3' %26amp; punitive timeouts when they were little, we realized that the punishment itself wasn't teaching anything. And, that our children were either *smart enough to learn*, so why not teach them. Or, we realized that they weren't ready to learn how to deal with that particular situation yet, so we shouldn't be expecting them to know how to deal with it on their own. They shouldn't be punished for 'misbehaving' when they hadn't properly internalized the lesson yet. Instead, we rolled back %26amp; supervised, guided, taught, role-modeled until we thought they were ready to try again.





    I can tell you, though, that natural consequences, love %26amp; logic-type parenting *did not* work with the niece who moved in with us just before her 12th birthday. But, then, neither did any reward/punishment type parenting, either. By that time in her messed up life, it was all a game to her. She totally *knew* what was right, what was wrong - why it was right or wrong - what was expected of her, but her craving for constant attention %26amp; drama, due to a very authoritarian reward/punishment childhood, combined with neglect in infancy... Well, nothing worked by then :-( Maybe if we had 'rolled back' further for her - done some kind of rebirthing therapy where we bonded with her as a parent does with an infant... I don't know.





    But, I can't imagine parenting my kids (and stepkid) any other way. We believe that they can learn anything, that they are smart enough to do it. We believe that they have a natural desire to do what's right %26amp; good, to be in right relationship with the world. And, they know that we're just trying to help them figure it all out.
    No because kids crave discipline and they need to know right and wrong and that there will be a consequence to their actions just like in the real world. Its our job as parents to prepare them for that.
    No, but I believe in parenting without hitting.





    Natural consequences can be a form of punishment. If you don't pick up your toys, you lose the privilege of playing with them for a day.





    I use redirection and positive reinforcement for children under 18 months old, after that I use natural consequences, time-out, and the removal of privileges as well. Consistency is the key...say what you mean, mean what you say, do what you say and act how you want your child to.





    I NEVER hit. Spanking is hitting. My parents never hit and they have 5 children, 4 masters degrees, including a special ed teacher, 2 social workers (and a stay-at-home mom MSW), and a minister. None of us were ever in trouble with the law or at school.





    My in-laws borderline abused their kids with the spanking....suspensions, drinking, and my husband was arrested so that crap about needing to hit or your kids won't learn is CRAP!
    No. I think that the punishment and severity of it is up to the parents, but that not having consequences for your actions is absurd.





    If someone punched you in the face, are you going to let them just walk away and prented it never happened and let ';natural consequences'; take place. Probably not. And even if you did, you wouldn't if they did it repeatedly. It's unrealistic.
    My children are younger, and they're mostly good. Sometimes they have their moments though - like little sister biting bigger one, etc. Time out in the naughty corner is a good deterrent for us. Time out lasts as many minutes as they are old. We don't spank, and don't yell or take things away (they're not at the ipod or pc age anyhow). I don't think it would be fair to not punish bad behavior though. I've seen some older kids who weren't punished or rarely punished and they pick on others and don't know how to act. So end up not having friends and all. Which really doesn't benefit them in the long run. Just my opinions though!
    no, because in the real world where they have to follow rules, natural consequences don't work. Natural consequences like having a catastrophic accident due to drunk driving are kinda stiff consequences. children need limits and are happier knowing where the line is.
    Definitely!





    But I do believe that you need to start very young, though. Otherwise there will be a period where your child will test and test, wondering when you're going to go back to your old ways.





    Having peacefully parented my two kids (ages 9%26amp;13), I'd say it's very effective and successful. It's definitely suitable for all children of all ages. But see sentence above. (we started at birth).





    Check this link: http://joyfullyrejoycing.com/ Lots of examples and explanations of how it works vs conventional parenting.
    I imagine those children with no punishment or have no structure in the home would miss out on the lessons learned from the punishment, which in turn could lead to relationship problems, developmental problems, social problems, I mean the list can go on and on and on!
    We believe in letting our kids be kids. Letting their imagination and spirit grownaturally. There are reasonable consequences for ';negative'; behavior, but I think our style is working because there aren't a lot of issues. We choose our battles wisely and encourage empathy and kindness.

    What kind of positive parenting classes are out there for moms? To go to, or an online course. Will pay money?

    I'm from mississauga/torontoWhat kind of positive parenting classes are out there for moms? To go to, or an online course. Will pay money?
    Im not sure about Canada but in the states a lot of school districts regardless of wether your child is to young to go to school yet have parenting classes. They can be very helpful and you get to know more parents of the kids your children are going to school with. There are tons of specialized classes out there depending on what exactly u are looking for. Also there are tons of forums online and books available to read about positive parenting. Hope you find the proper guidance you are looking for in your search.What kind of positive parenting classes are out there for moms? To go to, or an online course. Will pay money?
    try loveandlogic.com
    The best thing I did that felt like parenting classes were some courses from the college on Infants and Toddlers as well as Preschool, because those were my kids ages. Child Development and Child guidance were great as well as the one credit courses about art and music and play. See if your Community College has any thing you can take. There were parents in there that wished they had these classes when their kids were young.
    www.rie.org


    They have prenatal classes now and classes for you to take with the baby once he/she is 4 months.
    The Best Advice is free, just ask it seems like everyone with kids are willing to share experiences with ya, all you have to do is ask.
    The Love %26amp; Logic audio CDs from Jim Fay.
    Check your social services department in your community.
    To seek information on postive parenting, I know of a book I once read, PET. Parental Effective Training. Closeness of family is always a gigantic help, praying, eating, reading, outside activities together. Fairness. You may want to go to Wikipedia or Yahoo for the classes answers, and of course to the local college, school, church and other educatinal areas, such as libraries as well. GL and Gb get into some chats on the web that are for moms. lots of info out there if you just seek it out...
    google it
    http://www.positiveparenting.com/





    Check it out :)

    Is it really true or a myth when it comes to parenting?

    Is it true that most people don't want kids these days, or is that just a myth? I've been reading post from people saying no one wants kids these days.





    Its hard to believe since for the newer/younger generation, there are tons of teen pregnancies and lots of girls are way too obsessed with being mothers in the future. Do they realize that the world is overpopulated ad f'ed up as it is?





    So do you really believe that most people don't want kids these days or its just another rumor?Is it really true or a myth when it comes to parenting?
    Yes there are people who dont want kids.. and i think thats nothing wrong with it.Is it really true or a myth when it comes to parenting?
    interesting..


    There may be more teen pregnancies, but as single mothers or single fathers, or even as young couples, they don't continue to pound out more as much because taking care of one child is hard enough because education requirements to get jobs are higher now.. it takes more pay than that from an entry level joe-job to take care of a family.


    Whilst in the past, people married at a younger age, and had more kids in their lifetime and things were probably cheaper (my parents who immigrated into Canada had enough savings to buy two homes, but now immigrants coming to my city can barely afford the crappiest home in the crappiest area)


    Teenage parents aside, plus womens' lib and everything, and encouragement of education and following career paths.. people find other things that are more important to them than taking care of another human being right now. So even if young girls are obsessed with being mothers in the future.. desires change
    NO. I麓m in daycare, and I can tell you, without a doubt, that people want and love their children.





    Surely what you were reading was a poster putting his/her own opinions on the rest of the world. Or maybe the people they know fit that profile, but overall, it is not true. And I think most families ARE small because of overpopulation. At least in the US.
    I can't wait to have kids. I've wanted them for a while but I have some fertility problems despite being 22. I love to care for people, it is in my nature. I carer for disabled adults and I love my job. The only problem is that I want to be able to care for my own flesh and blood. I want to pass down my genes to the next generation and not just my morals. I think it is a basic human survival instinct to want to have children.





    Having said that. I am very keen on the idea of teaching any children that I may have, how to be, polite, hardworking, proud, honest, use common sense, be respectful, the list goes on. I'm also against spoiling them and making life too easy for them. I am big on the idea of tough love.





    I do become very annoyed when I see bad parenting. I think that there are a lot of people (not necessarily just teen parents, I'm also talking about baby boomers and other generations) that should not be having kids. I don't just mean people that are abusive either, there are plenty of parents who love their kids but just don't know how to raise them in my opinion.

    Is this bad parenting or child abuse?

    my mom grabbbed my little sisters hair and pulled it. She pulled it really hard and she lifted my little sister out of her seat a bit. She pulled some hair out of her head. My parents are always hitting and pushing my little sister and Im sick of it.Is this bad parenting or child abuse?
    That definetly falls under the category of child abuse. Contact child services ASAP so they can come take a look for themselves.Is this bad parenting or child abuse?
    I don't know if any of us are really qualified to say. I would discuss it with someone who is qualified and give them all the details. Often child abuse is a result of bad parenting. However, I definitely think it is uncalled for.
    it depends if your sister has done something wrong, and how often? but id say it does cross the metaphorical line into child abuse.
    you are being a good older brother by realizing this and wanting to help your little sister. a line is being crossed here! this is much worse than bad parenting. you need to call the child abuse hotline and they can help you!
    Thats horrible!!! Thats definately child abuse!!!
    That sounds like bad parenting. It is probably done out of anger rather than seeing to the needs of a child.
    good chance thats child abuse, but we can not make that call because for us it's hear say. Tell a trusted adult outside of the family, or call yourself for help.
    IMO, that's crossing the line into child abuse
    That would be child abuse my friend. Just call a friend, talk to a counselor or something
    well hair pulling like that isnt good and probably child abuse but theres nothing wrong with spanking or physical contact to an extent. from the sound of what shes doing tho i would say shes being too extreme
    It is abuse, call someone you trust for help.
    Pulling hair out of a child's head is abuse.
    Why would someone do that to their child? It's child abuse. Get help!
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  • How can foster kids who have grown up learn about parenting?

    I was recently asked by a good friend how to raise children. I am not a father, but she is a single mother, 26, and was raised without parents in a foster home. What advice can I give her and what support groups should I direct her to?How can foster kids who have grown up learn about parenting?
    You know, good parenting is an aquired skill. I was an abused child but I have 3 children of my own. What I did learn is that I was not going to do to my children what was done to me. Trust me, the first time you look into you baby's eyes, hold him or her, or the first time he or she grabs you finger with that little hand, parenting will be on you like white on rice. Being a mother in most cases just flows into you. It is very hard to explain what this kind of love does to a person. It is an amazing feeling of being needed and unconditional love.How can foster kids who have grown up learn about parenting?
    Did she not have a loving foster family? If not this is sad for her and she does not have a family to model. Foster families are not the same as biological families but they should be loving and similar to biological familes as far as supporting children and giving them a foundation to adulthood. I would encourage her to take some parenting classes and possibly getting some therapy to overcome some of her childhood issues.
    I don't actually know of any better support groups than those around her. not everyone learns parenting from their parents, otherwise I would of shipped my son off with his first court case at 11 yo. As a parent I have learned that unconditional love is truly what matters. We don't give up on our kids for giving us a headache, We need to let them know we are there no matter what falls, right or wrong. We will fight for them when they are right, yet stand by them when they are wrong and try to help them gain knowledge to better their wrongs. If parenting was easy there would be no support needed. Matter of fact she may ask her child's doctor if any local support groups she can attend some clinics and hospitals offer these groups. And let her know seeking help is the first move to being a better person not just parent. Continue giving her your support you may feel clueless too, we all learn things different ways. If you have a chance offer to attend a group (if any local ones may be around) she probably would feel not so anxious not attending alone. Even though you have no kids sounds like you may be concerned about hers which isn't exactly a bad thing.

    Should all parents be forced to take parenting classes?

    Yes. I think that some parents should have to apply for a liscense to have children also. Some parents...Should all parents be forced to take parenting classes?
    Forced? No. Encouraged? Yes. I think that as part of the birthing class process all mothers should be introduced to parenting classes. I also think anyone who has a run in with Child Protective Services should also be made by law to take parenting classes.





    However, I don't think all parents need them. My best friend is the most amazing mother I've ever met and she never took a parenting class. However, she did a lot of reading prior to her daughter's birth and has subscriptions to parenting magazines that help give her ideas on how to improve her parenting style. So it depends on each person but I think all parents and parents-to-be should be encouraged to take a parenting class.Should all parents be forced to take parenting classes?
    Absolutely. At the very least, at the well-child check ups they should go over child safety and check for signs of abuse and talk about healthy eating habits.





    Our hospital was wonderful when I gave birth. They had an *optional* 2 hour parenting class on infant safety and they offered free CPR classes. They talk about the dangers of shaken baby syndrome and how often to feed an infant to umbilical cord care etc etc. I LOVED all the info I got and shared it with everyone.


    I believe that class should be mandatory before leaving the hospital. There are so many idiots out there that don't know that a baby needs burped. On the other side, there are so many new parents that could benefit from some tips and information.





    parenting classes couldn't hurt!
    They shouldn't be forced,they should be encouraged to take parenting classes.I personally think it should be given in High School.It should be provided to people, that have little experience on taking care of small children too.They should have licenses in order to have children for some people.Some people just don't know what they're doing and are just careless with kids.
    Of course! just for the common knowledge at least! learn some simple Supernanny tricks, whether they are used or not is up to the parent. maybe some Child CPR and First Aid, most parents don't know the basic knowledge of that, which is sad. Also the first timers should know what to expect at a certain point.. even though their Pediatrician will tell them, it'd be nice if they knew before hand.





    Although there are many parents out there who did a wonderful job with no parenting classes, it still might have been a little helpful for them.





    I'm only 18, but I plan on 7 kids. I'm definitely taking parenting classes on my 1st and maybe 5th child.





    (: Merry Christmas..








    oh sorry I didn't read the question, I don't think it should be forced, but strongly recommended to the new parents. but maybe forced to those who have had CPS called on them.. if it's not mandatory already...





    I also agree with everything ';Smile'; said
    My husband and I did because we once figured that between us we had maybe five minutes of total baby care experience and it would be beneficial to our firstborn if we at least had some idea as to what we were doing.





    I think that it shouldn't be forced, but encouraged and made available. Back in 1990, I really had to look hard for the class and thankfully, one was offered in babycare by our local chapter of the Red Cross.





    Did it make us better parents? I wish we had taped that first bath when we basically followed what was in the handout on how to give a baby a bath. It was hysterical. But she is now almost 19, in college and doing fabulously and her younger sister hasn't turned out that bad either.
    Gosh, alot of people have been asking this lately.


    Anyways, no. I think teens should but not adults who have been in the real world, some tequniques work for some people and others dont, parenting inst somthing you wake up knowing how to do, it comes usually out of instinct and is something God teaches you along the way. I understand though, that there are parents who dont deserve to be paernts.
    Maybe not forced, but it should be encouraged. Especially if the parents have little experience. It could help the nation lean towards raising better children. Although, if it is forced, and the service requires money, of coarse there are going to be issues as far as if they could afford it or not.
    YES!!!! They should also be forced to get a license in order to have children. Some couples should NEVER have children, and subsequently shouldn't be provided with a license. I don't know how to determine who should get a license and who shouldn't, but some people should definitely NOT have children. If people need to get a license to have a dog, they should definitely need a license to have children.
    I think i am a very good mother and shouldnt be forced to take any classes. If people were to do something wrong or abuse there child then i think they should take the classes. Some people do really great with there children.
    Yes. At my high school we had to take Adult Living and the majority of the class was devoted to parenting. Although, I really think that the best parenting comes from instinct rather than books...That should be taught too.
    i mean i think it would help for those in need, but for the mature first time parents out there that know what they are doing..no they should not be forced!
    YES!!! I fully believe that all first time parents should have to take parenting calsses I do not care how old you are, married or not.
    i think it should be a mandatory class in high school. there needs to be more life skill class that are mandatory.
    How about making it a required course in high school instead.
    i think it should be required for high school


    for girls AND boys
    Alot of them should ..I teach them at SUNY..sign up

    How do YOU think bad parenting has manifest itself in Society?

    The results of bad parenting manifests itself in our society in too many ways to count.





    No or little work ethic means workers produce inferior manufactured goods. Customer service representatives fail to provide any service of real value. This is a result of parents not teaching their kids the value of work or manners.





    Driving to and from anywhere means dealing with drivers who do not care about others. This is a result of parents not teaching their children to care about others or to be courteous.





    Attending school all the way from elementary to university level frequently means dealing with rude students who mistreat others. Once again, this is a result of parents not teaching their children. In this case not teaching them to socialize or interact well with others.





    Neighbors are not neighbors anymore. They're strangers. Kids don't interact with one another or the neighborhood. They stay inside and watch telvision or play video games. Parents teach their kids to be afraid of anything outside of the home instead of teaching them to use good judgement.





    Kids frequently don't take care of their own pets, leaving the responsibility to the parents. This teaches children that if they don't want to do something, someone else will bail them out.





    Parents GIVE things to their kids, without asking for any chores or anything to MERIT a reward, teaching them no responsibility for later life. Then when the kids are out in the world, they have a sense of entitlement instead of expecting to earn their way.





    I could go on all day, but I would come across as a nutcase, so I'll stop.How do YOU think bad parenting has manifest itself in Society?
    I think parents have become pansies. While I don't normally believe in hitting kids, I have wanted to slap the taste out of alot of young teenagers lately. The problem is that parents are giving their children control. Kids have no accountablity and no reprecussions for their actions. Kid wants to have sex? Buy them birth control. Kid is acting up in school? Teachers fault. It has manifested itself in society because our culture is shallow and fickle. Parents are lazy because things come easy to them. Its hard to provide a child with disapline, love and good values. So instead they placate them by giving them what they want. Its disgusting.How do YOU think bad parenting has manifest itself in Society?
    kids who talk back to anyone in an authority position. No respect anymore...comes from parents.
    I think the baby boomers were brought up by parents that had to work, and did the best that they knew how.. but that was not always good.. no many were latch key kids and got into to much trouble.. both parents had to work and the kids were left to their own devices to entertain themselves, and that was not a good thing. most could not afford a baby sitter or day care.. Now we are trying to raise our kids the best that we know how, but did not have a very good teacher.. I do think that there needs to be more parents giving their kids a good kick in the butt, and washing their mouths out with soap.. and a good grounding never hurt any one.. to many parents are to busy to be with their kids, and that is a shame, and that is where we are going wrong.. I was really involved with my boys, and they grew up to be great men. both married and doing great out there in the business world, making good money and taking care of their own family and not in debt, and living large... I am very proud of them, but I was one of the parents that was involved with them, but I worked outside the home too. but took the time to be a band mom, soccer mom hockey mom, Pres. of PTA, and worked 50 a week, Parents just need to get more involved in what the kids are up to, and know what is going on in their lives, I know my kids were no angels.. they got in their fair share of trouble.. but they also got punished for it too.. parents need to stop being afraid of grounding their kids, and spanking ,not beating, but spanking their kids, and show them who is boss.. things would be much better in this world..
    Parenting is one of the toughest jobs on the planet. Parents should be like the wind beneath the wings to their children, while being able to let go when the children develop their own wings and learn how to fly. Parents should be friends for life, and not desert their children ever! Examples of bad parents would be - the Hilton's, the Spears, the Lohan's etc. study these if you want to know about bad parenting.
    No such thing my dad hits me all the time, and i still love him
    Well personally i believe that Britney spears is subconsciously teaching girls to bee bad mothers. As well as many male rock stars in the past have been shi(censored)tty dads, like John Lennon to Juliane. In the race to be cool and up to date on trends children will always loose to entertainment. this is an ugly part of western civilization that can be resolved though.
    Badly dressed young girls, boys not brought up to be tough.
    Because parents don't spend time with their children.


    If you don't have time to spend with a child, don't have them.


    That's my thought.


    The excitement seems to be in having a baby.


    Then it's lost after the child grows older.


    We were all children once.


    Looking back, I would have liked more:


    *guidance


    *praise


    *support with the bad choices I made

    Does a married childless person ever have the right to criticize the parenting of another person's children...

    ...even if the person with children is making mistakes that are obvious?





    Or, should the person without children alway shut up (or refer to CPS if children are in danger) because they ';don't know what it's like to raise children';?Does a married childless person ever have the right to criticize the parenting of another person's children...
    I read a book that started with the sentence ';I used to be a very good parent... and then I had children';.





    The truth is that you absolutely cannot know what parenting is right for anyone - even once you have children. It is actually worse when you have kids. You see other parents having a hard time with their kids and they have no idea how to teach the behavior they keep saying they want. I have friends who are parents who complain about how their kids behave and they ask me how I do I do this or that - I tell them what works for me. It doesn't work for everyone.





    Back to your question - it would really depend on the situation and how close I was to the parents. I might start a conversation about parenting with a very good friend or sibling but as far as openly criticizing - I would say that is a no-no.Does a married childless person ever have the right to criticize the parenting of another person's children...
    I think that any human being has the right to politely speak their mind when they see someone doing something to another person that they think is wrong or dangerous.





    I think that parenting advice %26amp; inspiration can come from both sources that have experience %26amp; sources that don't. Sometimes the best ideas come from someone who can take a fresh look at things from the outside.





    This doesn't mean that the parent has to do what the other person says, of course. But, they certainly have the right to say it. And, it wouldn't hurt to listen to what anyone has to say then filter it through their knowledge of themselves %26amp; their family.
    If it's obvious the child is in danger, then we all should have an obligation to protect that child, regardless if we have kids or not.





    In general, I don't know how people without kids can give useful advice (or criticize) people with kids on how to raise them. All they would know are the generalities, most common practices, etc. But having kids means you have to deal with the umpteen curveballs that get thrown your way...
    Well, I think it depends on what is going on. You mentioned you are not referring to a dangerous situation. There can be a lot of times when I think criticism is warranted - any form of abuse (physical or emotional), not providing a healthy diet, not teaching proper manners. When it comes down to silly things, like what small children wear, what time they go to bed, etc....that criticism is not warranted (in my opinion).
    I believe there is a big difference in criticizing parenting styles and recognizing a dangerous situation. IF is is just parenting styles stay out of it they are not your children and you do not know them they way their parents do, IF the children are in danger intervene not everyone has the common since to take care of another person(s).
    A general consensus says that if you don't have kids, you shouldn't be giving advice. I don't necessarily believe this however. Jjust because one doesn't have kids, doesn't mean they don't have experience with them or common sense. I say use your best judgment annd obviously if a child is in danger, step in or call CPS.
    That's a really tough question. My cousin has 2 boys and what she's teaching them is not really all that great. My advice would be talking to them not give criticizism but advice on what they may be teaching is not going to be helping for there children. In the end they are rasing these children not you so if they listin great if not well they cant blame anyone but themselves.
    i say if know that something needs to be done in the parenting you should say it, just because you don't have kids doesn't mean you don't know what you are talking about especially if you had to help take care of sibling or another relative's children
    If its something that puts the child's life in danger yes other wise no
    they shouldn't give advice on something they have never done

    Does anyone know a good site in spanish and english about parenting, pregnancy tests, coupons?

    http://www.momanddadslounge.comDoes anyone know a good site in spanish and english about parenting, pregnancy tests, coupons?
    babycenter.com has a spanish site. Go to their english webpage and bottom right corner there's a link to the Latin site.Does anyone know a good site in spanish and english about parenting, pregnancy tests, coupons?
    try justmommies.com

    If parents allow their kids to smoke that live with them, do you think that is bad parenting?

    but only if they are of age (18+)If parents allow their kids to smoke that live with them, do you think that is bad parenting?
    If they are 18+, no.If parents allow their kids to smoke that live with them, do you think that is bad parenting?
    If the kid is over 18, it is not for the parents to ';allow'; it or not. Forty or fifty years ago, it was considered okay to allow kids to smoke much younger than that! In fact, if your 2 y/o girl smoked cigars every day, or a lot of cigarettes, she would get her picture in the paper, and not as a negative thing, either - it was considered precocious!
    well, if they are 18 that is their choice, but i dont think the parents should allow it in the house. if he/she must smoke, then take it outside. also, it depends how much they smoke....if you can obviously tell that your son or daughter has a bad addiction, then you should try to stop it, but if they are just casual smokers, then their isnt much you can do, just dont allow it in the house.
    I don't see a problem for parents to let their kids who smoke live with them. However, I don't think that the parents should allow their kids to smoke in the house. If a kid wants to get lung cancer, that's his or her decision, but his or her parents shouldn't have to be subjected to all those harmful chemicals.
    eh, I would say the age old ';Under my roof, under my rules..'; like my father did... But there really isn't much you can do when they can make their own $$ and legally go buy the cigarettes.





    I do think it's bad parenting though. They should make rules that state no smoking in or around the house.
    Well if they are 18 and still living with you, then yes. If they are older and visiting, then no. If my kids decide to smoke, it won't be allowed in or near my house regardless of their age. I just can not tolerate the smell and the smoke makes me feel ill.
    actually i dont know, but i think letting your child to smoke is bringing him to danger.i know many of us knew that smoking will not do any good to our health and of courseas a parent you must discipline your child,and i think that was important...!
    If their of age i wouldn't concider it bad parenting...i remember being 18, there wasn't much my parents could tell me to or not to do....i wouldn't allow it in my house however, i would say if your gonna do it go outside...
    at 18 years old no I wouldn't consider it bad parenting but if the parents don't smoke they shouldn't allow it in the house as that is disrespect. Now I don't agree with letting minors smoke.
    yes and no. i mean, they are adults at that point. but then again you are still the parent and it is your house. hmmm. i don't think i would allow it.
    you can't stop them from bying them but you can tell them not to smoke in your house you can tell eneyone they can't smoke in your house.
    hellow!


    i belive if u love your kid u wsont let ur kid 2 smoke as smoking is bad for the health so any parent would nt let his /her kid 2 to sick smoke is bad for health and brings death to people......
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  • I was gonna ask this in the Business & Finance section but the parenting section made more sense!?

    If you owe the state back child support do they take your taxes to cover it? I mean I have a payment plan set up with them but will they just take it in one lump sum?I was gonna ask this in the Business %26amp; Finance section but the parenting section made more sense!?
    yes even though your paying it off they will still take the tax return and be carefull because now they can garnish wages to recover arrears if they are not satisfied with how much your repayingI was gonna ask this in the Business %26amp; Finance section but the parenting section made more sense!?
    Yes they can take your fed tax returne to pay it back even if you are paying it back on a payment plan. You will just have less payments to make. But make sure they really send it for the child. I know of a couple who were not together they kept his tax returne for years and she never got it. He thought she was. One day they something was said about it and she was like what are you talking about. He had to go around and around with them and I don't know whatever came of it.
    Yes, they usually take it if you are behind on child support
    yes they usually do, I know someone this year that had both his state and federal taxes taken in the amount he owed. He was also on a payment plan.
    yes they will......
    Of course they will let you pay it off. As far as ';taking your taxes,'; child support laws vary from state to state.

    What parenting mistake did your parents make that you swore you would/will never make with your children?

    For me it is being too lenient. In my house by the time I was 15 or so there really were no rules, I had no curfew; I was however working full time. While the idea of that much freedom at 15 sounds great, it to me except in very rare cases is just too much responsibility to put on a child.What parenting mistake did your parents make that you swore you would/will never make with your children?
    i had the same type of parents and resent the freedom they gave me i never had chores or punishment.I chose bad things over education they never read to me and i am now pregnant now and i will read auto my child and will lay down the law!What parenting mistake did your parents make that you swore you would/will never make with your children?
    Saying no just for the sake of saying no. Similarly, disciplining without a plan, reacting rather than thinking. Along the same line, spanking (there's always another option imo). Those are all things my mother did which I do not.
    The biggest mistake my parents made was that they couldn't admit they made a mistake. So they had five children with that mistake(thinking it's not really a mistake, if we have children that'll make it better), and lived with that mistake until they could live no more. They both died pretty miserable people.


    Now, I suddenly realize I'm living their life, albeit not married. I pick the wrong job and I just suck it up and make the best of it, never a happy worker, but try to convince myself everything's OK, not willing to consider the possibility that I made a mistake.
    shipping my kids off to another relative[s] and completely ignoring them because i'm too busy with work.


    that's what my parents did with me,


    and i'm NEVER going to do that when i have kids.
    I remember walking to the corner of the street and wait for the car of another parent to take me to the school. My parent go to the work to early and miss the important things in life.





    Every morning I make breakfast to my kids and them ';drop'; them in the school.
    I don't have children, but if I ever do, I will never lower their self esteem with ultra sarcastic teasing.





    I will never discourage them from any goals they have set. I will encourage them, instead.
    My mom = wanting to be my friend over an actual guiding figure.





    My ';dad';= never caring enough to be there in the first place.








    ...not much to elaborate on..
    I agree with you although my parents were very strict until i was in my early 20's and even then I had to tow the line. I am now a mother of two young boys and I am also strict with them although I have a better communication line happening. However, I will always have rules whilst they live with me and they know what is expected.


    My husband parents used to make promises that were never kept - so in our home we never promise our kids anything we are not prepared to give/provide. I think this is an important rule when it come to gaining trust and eventually respect from your children. Being a parent is difficult and we believe that respect, responsibility and integrity should be part of parenting and whilst we are not perfect we hope that it will pay off once they are adults.


    : )
    I honestly believe that my father made no mistakes at all; he was an awesome dad. My mother was verbally and sometimes physically abusive and I always swore I'd do my best to be like my dad and the opposite of my mom. My kids are turning out great so far. My daughter is the first child, even including extended family, to attend college. No drug or criminal problems, nothing bad so far with any of my 3 babies. I think it's working :)





    By the way, I do love my mother more than words can say and would kill someone for even looking at her wrong. I didn't realize it when I was growing up, but she suffers from mental illness. (I wouldn't want anyone to think that I hate her.)
    Having 8 kids
    I'm having trouble coming up with an example, but I do hear myself saying those annoying things to my daughters that my mom used to say to me, and thinking...oh no, I'm becoming my mother!!!
    I was never allowed to question anything my parents said. Their word was gospel--even if I tried to talk it out calmly with them, even if I was just trying to understand. I don't have any kids yet, but when I do, I want to give them the opportunity to feel like their opinion is worthy of consideration. This particular behavior messed me up by making me feel unable to say no (which led to some bad times in my life) and making me feel unvalued.
    Push education and get them involved in extra-cirricular activities. My parents did neither, and refused to let me play sports, band, participate in clubs, etc.
    for me it was never encouraging or complementing for anything not matter how well I did


    I had a 98% average all through school .


    I wanted to learn to play an instrument but they wouldnt buy me one or even let me take lessons .


    as a result every thing I have achieved Ive done on my own





    I would make the same mistakes my parents did





    One of the worst things they always said to me was that I was a dreamer and would never ever succeed in anything





    Now I am a well known singer songwriter





    BOY DID I EVER PROVE THEM WRONG
    a**-whoopins... i don't see the need to do that with my kid
    divorce. This is one of the most ignorant things a parent can do.

    Is it good parenting to let you kid run your life?

    My friend trips me out. She has two sons who she claims are too onery to take anywhere, so she damn near lets the cupboards go bare before she goes shopping, and when she does go out with them, they know she's all talk and no action, so they cut up bigger than $hit wherever they go...except at my house. All I do is give them the eye and they chill the hell out. Anyways, what benefit is it to you, or your children to allow your kids to dictate your life and how you maintain the household? Why has all of a sudden kids been put on this magical pedestal? Hell, back when I was little, I could cut up if mamma was in the grocery store if I wanted to...she'd whoop my @ss right then and there and keep on shopping like nothing happened. Now here I am, 27 years old with a child of my own and a good job, a nice home, and doing well. I even take care of my nephews, because my sister always puts them off on me. I whoop their @ssess too. They respect me more than their own mother.Is it good parenting to let you kid run your life?
    That doesn't sound like parenting to me.Is it good parenting to let you kid run your life?
    to be honest I think you only posted this so everyone could agree with you and tell you how well you are doing. Maybe your ';friend'; needs help, support and advice from you instead of a slagging off behind her back





    I think your additional comment says it all about what a narrow minded imature person you really are. If you cant have a logical discussion with an adult it's no wonder you have to resort to hitting children.
    First of all, it is not up to you how your friend raises her children. Talk to many parents, even my mother, at a young age, you will not venture out into public places too often. Children are, just that... Children. Their minds need to be continuously stimulated. They do not think like us. So listening to mommy, isn't going to happen to easily. The reason parenting is so different now a days is because children are more understood. Yes, children need order and rules, but having them know when it is okay to do something, and when it is not okay, comes with time. Not to mention, she has more than one child, which makes things that much more difficult on her behalf. It becomes stressing to have to run all over the place, do what you need to do, and run in all directions as your children are getting into things. The younger the child, the hard it is. Obidience comes with age.
    Your friend needs to start putting her foot down NOW. I love my daughter and try to give her as much freedom as possible, but she know if she steps out of line it's big trouble, which for her means... the chair in the corner! She hates it! Honest to god, you wanna see a 7 year old beg and plead? It's just a chair, but for her it's Hell.


    Your friend HAS to follow through on your talk. She's not doing them any favors for when they're out in the real world on their own. My daughter knows if I tell her something, good or bad, I WILL follow through on it.
    Discipline is the key for raising good children. It is not good parenting to let the child do what ever they want, to give them everything without deserving it, to turn them into parasites. There are basic needs, like food, medicine,clothing, education and love of course, but discipline is very important in order to raise a good human being.





    BUT, discipline does not mean to ';whoop'; them. There are other ways, like taking away from them privileges, like a favorite toy, TV show, etc. And giving them a Time Out really works. Sometimes, parents ';whoop'; their children because THEY are angry at the child, and sometimes, bad things can happen if this anger escalates. You want your child to respect you, you don't want your child to fear you. And, you want your child to love you and feel safe. After all, you are the parent.
    That's terrible. She needs to seriously discipline them right now. Not only is it bad for the mother, but she is hurting her kids by not disciplining them because they will turn into horrible people. They'll be disrespectful and never grow up. However, ';whooping their @sses'; is not the answer either. But yes, you are right.
    I don't agree with either of your parenting styles but whatever works I guess. A child has to have discipline but you have to develop your own style of parenting and not just whoop their butts b/c your parents whooped you...but annnnyways
    Spare the child and spoil the rod beat thier butts off until they get it right


    when they do right they no longer get punished